søndag 27. april 2014

JPS Enterprises Hong Kong - Rosalin Santacruz

(Rosaline Santa Cruz)

Got a phone call from "Rosalin Santacruz" today. She's calling from "JPS Enterprises" in Hong Kong.

Rosalin: Am I talking to the manager of the company?
Me: Which company?
R: Kelson Consulting
Me: Yes, I am.
...
R: Do you have any investments in the financial market
M: No, I haven't done any of that yet, but I'm kind of looking into it.
R: Oookay, so you've never tried investment, however you are looking for -a- opportunity, right?
M: Eeeehm, well, yeah, just...
R: (interrupts) All riiiight
M: ... the right time or
R: (interrupts) of course, if it makes perfect business sense, right?
M: I guess so, yeah.
R: (laughs) ok, I do understand you mr. Kelson. So Mr. Kelson, in your line of business are you the one who is making the decisions on it, or do you have to consult a broker or a financial advisor?
M: Uuuuhm, I'm making my own decisions. I'm the sole owner, so...
R: So if I may say so, you are the captain of your own ship, Mr. Kelson, am I right?
M: Yes
R: All right, so Mr. Kelson, as I said, I am not calling you for any commitment or investment, ok? We are a business consulting company that provide a first class information on fast growing companies in the world wide market. So Mr. Kelson, if you do business - if you do investment are you looking for a short term profit or a long term profit?
M: Uuuuhm, I don't know, uh, whatever gives the best profit, I guess.
R: Ok, so you are trying to say that both long term and short term, right?
M: Yeah, I think so.
R: As long as they are profitable, right?
M: Yes
R: All right. So Mr. Kelson, this is the final point I want to go over....

The conversation goes on for another 4 minutes. I'm not going to go through all that, but you can listen to it in this clip:
 

My comments to this are:

  • This person sounds exactly like everyone else who calls about these things. It's like she's talking into the microphone, then the speech is transcripted into text, and then the text is read by a computer. Something like that. You notice especially when she reads numbers; "that is 5... thousand... dollars". Why can't they use their actual voice? Well, I guess if they end up in court, there would be less evidence against them - or a specific person in their "organisation". "There is no Santacruz in this company and we do not recognise that voice!"
  • Scam or not, why would I trust a company in Hong Kong? If I want to do investments, I would use an acknowledged broker - preferably in my country. They might say that are famous, but what do I know - I found nothing about them online. Sometimes I will find a company with the same name, but who knows - maybe they are not REALLY representing this company. 
  • These people are well-trained in saying exactly the kind of things that would make it hard for you to resist. Notice how they compliment me or try to be understanding about things they know nothing about? "So, you are the captain of your own ship?" she asks. I'm tempted to feel flattered, "Yes, I guess I could be compared to a captain!" She is doing a reading on me, so will only go as far as she things I'm willing to accept. The more enthusiastic I get, or the more welcoming I am to flattering, the more she will play on this. I wouldn't say I was being overly enthusiastic, but I tried to seem a little open-minded so that she would have a hope that I would be interested. If they sense that I'm not REALLY interested, they might just hang up.
  • This is only phase 1, to get a good read on me and my situation. They might have categorised me as "not in their target group" (I would think they are looking for really dumb people, which I may portrait badly), but if not, I should expect another call - phase 2. Phase 2 is where they start presenting me with some actual investment "opportunities". I think the longer they wait, the LESS prepared I will be. If they had called the day after, I would have this mind and I would have a better defence prepared, but if they wait a week or so, I might have forgotten all about this.
  • I think the name is fake and something that they might generate a new name for each case. This way, it's not that easy to google that name and find something bad. If there were 100 articles online about a fraud related to "Rosalin Santacruz", more people would stay away from this "opportunity". But if they operate with thousands of different names, there might only be one article for each name, but that doesn't matter, because that name will never be used again for others to dig up dirt on.
  • JPS Enterprises appears to have no website. According to a google search, there is a "JPS Enterprises" listed in some company directories for Hong Kong companies. But yeah - no website for this professional "advisor"? Don't trust a "company" with no website, that's my advice. Especially if they don't operate in your country and you have no chance of meeting them.

So I still don't know exactly what this is, but it's fishy enough for me to recommend you to stay away. Find an acknowledged advisor if you really want to invest in something.

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